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City of Lincoln Committee of the Whole met Oct. 9.

Here is the minutes provided by the committee:

The Committee of the Whole Meeting of the City Council of Lincoln was called to order by Mayor Seth Goodman at 7 p.m., with proper notice given. City Clerk Peggy Bateman called roll.

PRESENT:

Alderman Steve Parrott Alderman Tracy Welch Alderman Ron Fleshman Alderwoman Michelle Bauer Alderman Ron Keller Alderwoman Heidi Browne Alderman Jeff Hoinacki Alderman Dayne Dalpoas

STAFF PRESENT:

City Administrator Elizabeth Kavelman City Clerk Peggy Bateman

Treasurer Chuck Conzo Fire Chief Mark Miller Police Chief Paul Adams

Building and Safety Officer Wes Woodhall Streets Superintendent Walt Landers

ABSENT:

City Attorney Blinn Bates Shawn Wright of Veolia Water

PRESIDING:

Mayor Seth Goodman

PUBLIC COMMENT:

Mayor Goodman called upon citizens registered to speak. Mr. Bill Hubbard of the Illinois Gold Rush came forward representing Apple Food Mart regarding Class B Liquor (video gaming) Licenses. He said the store is looking to expand and acquire a license, and this should draw more revenue to keep their business afloat, and should require them to hire more employees.

He said there is a lot of money invested in SKUs out there on these store shelves. Having these machines should increase store sales, reduce crime, and increase the number of jobs in the city. According to Mr. Hubbard's handout, Video Gaming paid out $275,071.13 to the City of Lincoln from Sept. 2017 to Aug. 2018.

City Administrator Kavelman said-you do realize we do not have any licenses available. Treasurer Conze asked about jobs, bartenders needed. Alderman Welch said there is so much to go around, adding new video gaming machines could detract from other businesses. He wanted to hear Mr.

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Hubbard's take on this. He said Springfield has 150 locations that have video gaming, but he said it's a big city. He said he's driven around Lincoln and there are places that it might be nice to have open. He talked about drawing more people into the city.

Alderman Fleshman wanted to know if the bar scanner code is used at other locations. Mr. Hubbard said it is used at Qik-n-EZ. Alderman Fleshman then asked about serving drinks out of a vending machine. Mr. Hubbard weighed in, saying convenient stores do not want to see anyone drink too much. He said it would be served from a locked cooler. The employee would unlock it, and register them out.

Mayor Goodman called for further questions. There being none, he invited Mr. Kevin Bateman to come forward. He came forward to discuss Mayor Seth Goodman and what was said at the last meeting. He said he also ran for mayor and has a full-timejob, and it this is a part-timejob. He said he could say, without a doubt, that this young man contacts him at all hours of the day, and there is no lag time. He said this is the electronic age-he said to say someone has to sit in their office, and wait for people to come in, is the kind of statement that moves things backwards. He said he's been a very good mayor, trying to do the best he can-given the situation he was put in. He said he hasn't seen communication problems with the mayor, he said for someone to point that out last week was totally wrong. He said he could only speak of his dealings with the mayor, he said they have been professional and timely when they have needed to be. He again said, "This is the electronic age." He said the comments we heard last week were inappropriate for the world we live in now at days, saying he has been nothing by communicative in his dealings.

Alderman Fleshman said he made that comment last week and he wanted to expand on it. He said when he was appointed, he had meetings with the mayor during his office hours on Thursdays. He said being in the business world himself, he thought rude to be on the phone when conducting businesses, that is why he did not contact the mayor at all hours of the day. He said he thinks he has been proven wrong in that situation, and that the two of them had been in contact that day. He said sorry to Mr.

Bateman and the mayor for offending them in any way for trying to conduct business face to face. There being no further public participation, Mayor Goodman moved down to other agenda items.

LOGAN COUNTY TOURISM BUREAU DIRECTOR MORGAN GLEASON-QUARTERLY REPORT:

Miss Gleason came forward saying she had handed out a quarterly report from the bureau. She said she wanted the council to have an updated list of the members of the board. She said since Chris left and she took over, she had hired a new staff member. She said last year, there was a $9,000 grant that they lost out on, and however, the grant is back up to the $33,000 range.

She listed out a number of groups and events that have received this grant funding. She said she wanted to make the bureau county wide and explained how she and the group are working to improve communications. She said the group is filling the Lincoln Depot with items from around the county and has invited the council to come look at it.

Alderman Keller asked how visitors are responding about their Lincoln Depot location. He wanted to know the pros and cons of the space. She said the signage currently directs them off the highway and down 5th Street. She said she has been working with Mr. Landers on how to better direct them to the Lincoln Depot. She said people do ask if they can buy traintickets.

Treasurer Conze said every time he goes in there is looks better than it did before. He said the group has done a great job representing the space.

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CRAWFORD, MURPHY & TILLY (CMT) REGARDING UPCOMING SEWER RATESWITHWATER READS:

Mrs. Christy Crites and Mrs. Shannon Brady came forward to offer an update from the last presentation. She said they started giving presentations on this, dating back to January. They covered

loans and principal forgiveness which cannot be guaranteed until a later date.

Mrs. Brady discussed the newer rate structure, based off of a more accurate number of accounts. She said they're proposing a tiered rate structure. She said there are four different levels. There are three tiers that could be implemented from 2019 to 2021, depending on a customer's usage. Each tier increases by $5. Tiers would be based on average water usage between October and December.

There could also be a pre-pay sewer bill option.

Mrs. Crites said they need to make sure they can show the Illinois EPA finance people that the city can raise the rates to a level where the city can pay back the loan.

Alderman Keller wanted to know what would happen to someone who moves into the community. The average use in the city is 4,000. Most people would be in Tier 2. Mrs. Crites said everyone could be put into Tier 2, and then adjusted for the following year. She said there are some issues that need to be addressed and resolved within the ordinance.

Alderman Keller said we have to come up with a calculation to get us to the amount we need to pay off this loan... he said quick math...he's assuming all of this, if this plays out, the numbers do add up to what we need to do. Mrs. Crites, said yes, they do.

Alderwoman Bauer wanted to know about commercial users. She said where do we find ourselves if God forbid one of the commercial users were to leave us?

Mrs. Crites said we'd have to do a reevaluation at that point. She said a very small percentage of commercial users are paying the bills. She said we never wanted to be on that very hairline of being able to pay, and ensuring there was a little bit more. She said you can always adjust backwards. She said she thinks CMT is comfortable through Tier 3 in what that brings in for a revenue projection.She said this makes her feel a lot better.

Alderman Dalpoas asked if the tiers would remain static after 2021-2022 going forward. Mrs. Crites said to pay for this program, yes-she said so long as the overall usage stays the same, Tier 3 can cover their loan. It would be plenty enough to pay for the program.

Alderman Welch asked about the ordinance about the dollar increase every two years and how it played into the numbers. Mrs. Crites said the base cost to keep the plant running is always going up. She then discussed inflation. Mayor Goodman called for further questions, there being none, he moved down to other items on the agenda.

MAYOR GOODMAN'S APPOINTMENT OF ALDERMAN TRACY WELCH AS MAYOR PRO TEMPORE:

The item will be placed on the agenda.

APPLICATION BY DR. DON AND JANICE SIELAFF TO HOLD A BLOCK PARTY ON OCT. 31, 2018, AT THE INTERSECTION OF CHESTNUT AND 10TH STREETS TO UNION STREET, 4:30-8 P.M.:

The item will be placed on the consent agenda.

REQUEST TO PERMIT: LOGAN COUNTY TOURISM REQUESTING FOR STREET CLOSURES FOR 2018

Christmas Parade scheduled for Thursday, Dec.6, at 6:30 p.m.:

The item will be placed on the consent agenda.

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DISCUSSION REGARDING EMAIL SYSTEM REQUIRED DUE TO THE VOLUME AND STORAGE OF CITY EMAILS, REQUESTED BY POLICE CHIEF PAUL ADAMS IN HISROLE AS IT MANAGER:

Chief Adams opened discussion-he opened up a memo on the front television screen.He said the city is using an email service that is attached to the website. He said it is free, but it is not backed up. He presented other options for email such as an internally hosted exchange server. He weighed the pros and cons. He then covered cloud based options such as G Suite for Business and Microsoft Office 365. Alderman Keller asked how many users there are at the moment. There are about 75 users, however, city fire and streets and alleys do not utilize all of their accounts.

Alderman Welch said option three sounds like the better option, he said it's more portable, more costs are involved, but it is one less piece of equipment that has to be utilized. Chief Adams said it would be about $4,500 to go with Microsoft Office 365. Alderwoman Bauer said her office just transitions to Office

Alderman Welch wanted to know if Microsoft Office 365 would allow for easier usage for FOIA He then brought up the budget-how the service would be paid for. Treasurer Conzo said he had no idea at this point, but he could look at some of the lines in there. He said he would look at it.

Alderwoman Bauer wanted to know if it eliminated IT Services. He said it could lessen the need. There would be much less overhead. Alderman Welch said do we put it on the agenda, or review it at the next COW? He said he didn't know the city was in a big hurry. The item will be placed on the next COW.

IDOT Resolution for 5th Street Road Land Acquisition and Professional Services: City Administrator Beth Kavelman asked that a resolution be placed on the agenda for the next meeting. She said CMT has been talking with the citizens about signing on. She said the meeting helped explain to them what the city is trying to accomplish.

Alderman Parrott had asked how many had signed on since the meeting at the City Police Station.She said maybe six or seven. Alderwoman Bauer said there is one resident that is open, but was unable to attend the meeting. Alderman Parrott asked if anyone had made the comment that they would never sign. She said one made the comment that they weren't disagreeable, but that they would want to be the very last to sign on. The item will be placed on the regular agenda.

CAMPUS VIEW DRIVE STREET APPROVAL AND RECOMMENDATIONS:

Streets Superintendent Walt Landers said, if the city does take this on, this year is probably not a good

idea, that he would recommend resurfacing be put off for next year-and approached next season.The quote is $37,916.95. That has about $4,600 of mobilization in it. He said the cost could be lower next year and that the city could look at doing some of this work ourselves also. Alderman Welch said so the topic then is, based on the information they've been given about this topic, in his mind, it's safe to say the road was annexed in, when the properties were annexed in. He said Ithink it's important the council takes some action to make their intentions known about this road.So future councils do not need to go through these hoops again, like Mr. Kevin Bateman had to go through.

Alderwoman Bauer said it needed to be made clear, that if this project is taken on, it is not because of nepotism or because Mr. Bateman has come up to the councilweek after week. She said it would be to take action on something the previous councils did not take action on-she said it is not about that fact that we like him better, or there was some sort of nepotism, or some sort of coming up here and being present and that is what it took. She said the decision would be based on something that should have been done years ago.

Alderwoman Browne said we as a council see that on an on-going basis-that we have to clean up past mistakes made by other councils-such as the sewer mandate. She said this is something we do need to make a final judgment on.

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Alderman Keller agreed the councilneeded to act on this-he said while he agreed the annexation already happened, the letter that was handed to the council from Lincoln Christian University (LCU)­ seems to him to give evidence that the city does own it.

Alderwoman Browne said if you're going to measure roads, you can come measure my road.She said she doesn't know where her property ends and the road begins anyways. She said she's sure a lot of people here and at home may have that same issue.

Alderman Dalpoas said there are certain exceptions and variances, which would be his interpretation. But that would not be a hang up on his end.

Alderwoman Bauer asked if the council needed to formally adopt the letter from LCU-to accept the deed or ownership and then at that point... the councilcould instruct Mr. Landers to include that portion of the roadway into next year's bid packet.

Treasurer Conzo wanted clarification from Alderman Keller on when the letter was sent and he wanted to know what it said. Mr. Kevin Bateman said the last letter was from 1999 [inaudible]. He said all of this was brought forward before anyone knew about the state statute, about annexation and city streets [off microphone, inaudible].

Alderman Welch said we need to take the action that Alderwoman Bauer outlined. He said we should ask the City Administrator to draft it up and bring it back to the next COW. Alderman Fleshman asked about the deed of dedication and if it needed to be recorded. He then asked about a title company.

Alderwoman Bauer said she believed a title search was done at one time and it was a moot point. Mr. Bateman stood up from the audience once more and talked about a document signed by Mayor Malerich in June of 1976 [inaudible]. He brought up the Legends Subdivision as an example of when properties are moved into a taxing body. The item will be readdressed during the next COW. Alderwoman Bauer wanted City Administrator Kavelman to look into seeing if there is a need to do a title search.

FURTHER DISCUSSION OF REQUEST BY THE CITY OF LINCOLN LIQUOR COMMISSION TO EXPAND/ADD THREE ADDITIONAL CLASS B LIQUOR LICENSES FOR VIDEO GAMING TO ITS ALLOWABLE NUMBER, TO REACH 15 TOTAL:

Mr. Danny Wheat came forward talking about 17 locations in town, with 85 machines. He said we gave the state gaming board, permission to put video gaming machines in the City of Lincoln. He said the only way we can limit machines, is by limiting liquor licenses. He said we have issued three Class B licenses that formerly had Class A licenses. He said we had three locations now, use these up. He said this is what happened, not really any new locations, he said now Class A and Class B licenses have the same hours, the price for the license is the same-he said Class C licenses require 50% of sales must be food. Class B licenses require 60% or more of sales have to be alcohol.

He wanted to combine the Class B and C licenses. He said there are four licenses we're not using in Class C. He said they'd like to have the 50% of sales line be waived from the ordinance. He said they'd also like to waive the 60% line waived, because it is so hard to enforce. He said you can't really track it down. He wanted to waive the 50% and 60% criteria. He said almost every bar in town is almost a restaurant with a bar.

He said we have no control over the gaming licenses. He said they have to get a Class B or Class C license,he said then they take it to Springfield and get a state license. They then go to the gaming board for approval. He said we cannot promise anyone they can have video gaming, just because we

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give them a liquor license. He said we'd like to put the B and C together, disregard the percentage criteria's, then they could have four licenses they could utilize.

Alderman Parrott wanted to know how many license holders have reported out. He wanted to know if the commission has the records. He said if someone brings in documentation on a napkin, he said the commission should have revoked their licenses. Mr. Wheat said it would shut the business down. He said he is still waiting to see what these businesses submitted. Mr. Wheat said we don't have any of those figures given to us. City Administrator Kavelman said they'd go back to looking at the records.

Alderman Parrott said he does not feel the council should move forward on giving any more licenses, until they sort things out.

Alderwoman Bauer said the 60% rule could have been thrown in arbitrarily. She said there was no way to track the information, or force the license holders to do so. She said they had an entire year past the time they took out their license, plus the entire tax season-she said these seven who were grandfathered in, have never had to present their sales. Alderman Parrott said he didn't want to make it any easier, he wanted to make it more difficult. Alderman Parrott said we have a lower population, our income for our people here is above poverty, they're all fighting for more pieces of pie-he said and we're trying to open up more of these--disposable income for folks so they can gamble it away? He said why would we make it easier for folks to have access to gambling and liquor, when they are barely above poverty. He said how do these businesses make it, if they don't have valid documentation?

Alderwoman Browne said Alderman Parrott made some valid points, but she did not want to keep any new businesses from coming in, she said she didn't want to limit things for. the city by not having any licenses available. She also acknowledged there could be greater accountability.

Alderwoman Bauer said they have to meet certain expectation for the gaming.She said the space is there, but they need to clean up the different ordinances. She said we as a councilmake that judgment. Alderman Parrott said we have ordinances now that are not being followed through on. He said he still wants the data. He said let's say we don't have it, we move forward, and we enforce the ordinance. She did not want to hurt some of the population that might need jobs.

Alderwoman Bauer said the purpose is to differentiate the difference-between the liquor licenses, she said gaming licenses are separate. She said if we want to control the total number of liquor licenses, we can do that-but she said there is no need to create more space, the space is there-they need to clean up the existing two licenses-combine the two ordinances, and keep the 50% sales criteria, keep

the accountability. But this would avoid creating more spots, and clean up the mess.

Alderman Parrott said we have ordinances now that are not being followed through on. He said he still wants the data, but he never gets it. He said we either say, we don't have it, we ask them now for it­ whatever you have to do, but let's enforce the ordinance.

Treasurer Conze said you can have people type it up, have them fill out a form, but sometimes you can have ordinances that are unenforceable. He said it's very difficult to know if what they're putting on that paper is truthful. He said the council could create an audit process, like the Illinois Department of Revenue {IDoR) and IRS does, but then you're going to hire someone to go out and do those audits.

He said you're talking about creating that-he said that's someone going through receipts, a full year's worth of expenditures. Like the IDoR and the IRS does when they conduct a tax audit. He said it is admirable to try to do that, but it is difficult to do that with any accuracy. He said combining the licenses is a good idea. The city would then be able to accommodate what they have before them without exceeding the total number allowable by both licenses combined.

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City Administrator Kavelman said this was the question she still had out to City Attorney Blinn Bates, she said he initially said yes about a month ago, but he did not respond the second time. Mr. Danny Wheat said two years ago, the commission looked to combine them. Alderwoman Browne wanted to know how other communities are satisfying this. She wanted to know if it was possible to reach out to these other cities, such as Springfield.

Alderman Welch said to take into consideration the request to Mr. Bates-if the city councilreceived a yes, then move forward with a draft ordinance-and include what Mr. Wheat said about removing the percentages. He said shouldn't it be as simple as looking at their tax documents, and looking at their sales revenues on the internet.

Treasurer Conze said their tax documents are not automatically publicly, you'd have to require that they be submitted. He said the city had done this with sales tax rebates, as part of a requirement for new businesses, he said the city did this with three or four different places. Alderman Welch said if we made it a part of the ordinance, it should be just that simple. He said if we're going to put a percentage in here, we're going to have to know what that percentage is.

Alderman Parrott said it is incumbent upon their part to submit it. He said they don't automatically get this, they have to provide the documentation to get the licenses. Mr. Wheat said if they don't give a report, if they don't submit it, they'll make the commission come get it. Alderman Parrott said if they

don't give you access, they lose their license. He said they don't automatically get this. Alderman Welch said these are rules they have to follow. Mr. Wheat said, but who do we send out there?

City Clerk Peggy Bateman weighed in, about sending a letter. She everybody says the clerk is responsible for this, she asked am Iresponsible for this? She said we are all new in there, we have no

idea what was done in the past-we have no idea, "Because none of us was in there."

City Administrator Kavelman said she and Melanie Riggs used to do them, and would check the percentages out, but they did not have B Licenses when she was in there.

Alderman Bauer asked about combining the licenses and keep the 50% rule-to allow for monitoring and to have some teeth in the game. "It still allows us to monitor moving forward," she said. Mayor Goodman said this 50% still won't apply to everyone.

Alderman Welch wanted to clarify, he said he previously read information from the ordinance, a Class B paragraph that states 50%, and a Class C paragraph that states 60%, but he mentioned paragraph "M." He said there is still 60% in paragraph "M" to cover the rule. Alderwoman Bauer said,"That's beautiful." City Administrator Kavelman said,"Sounds good to me.n Alderman Welch said at some point we need to clean up the situation, but Alderman Parrott may not get the answers he wants. Alderman Parrott said that's what I need to hear and the public needs to hear, that we don't have that information.

Alderwoman Bauer said we had a mayor, then we had another mayor who left us too soon, then we had an interim mayor, and then we had this election. She said in this process, when we should have been keeping accurate records, it did not get done. She said the head of the liquor commission at any given time, was the mayor. And that mayoral influx and change, led to some discrepancies. Mayor

Goodman said he takes responsibility, he did not have that information, this information is not available, but looking back it is not going to do any good at this point. Alderman Parrott said he appreciates all that, but said it is hard to look at voting to change things, unless it is to clean it up.

He said in talking with businesses-can small businesses stay in business, with gaming at other facilities? He said we have less population, fixed incomes, people above poverty-he said there is·only

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so much water in the pool, there is so much money in the pool. He said just because we have more gaming, doesn't mean there's more dollars. He said we have to be mindful as a council and look at that as well. He said why do we even have a number?

Alderman Dalpoas talked about having proper protocols, some sort of enforcement mechanism. Mayor Goodman said that documents would need to be required at the time of renewal, otherwise they would not get the renewal. City Administrator Kavelman weighed in about those that were grandfathered in and do not need to require proof.

Alderman Hoinacki said there was a number and a limit placed on these for a reason, he said we'll be faced with raising that number down the road. He said keeping the numbers and classes where they are at-there is a reason why they are there. He's in favor of just keeping it.

Alderman Welch wanted to know if there was a set of rules or guidelines that the commission follows. City Administrator Kavelman said they follow the ordinance code, Title 7. Alderman Welch said then the guidelines need to be included. He wanted recommendations for an auditing process. Alderman Welch wanted Mr. Wheat to explain the process of how someone gets their license renewed.

Mayor Goodman weighed in on how they could enforce this going forward, as part of the application. He wanted to know if there was any way of getting away from the grandfathering in.Alderman Dalpoas said he liked the idea of seeing what other cities do. Mayor Goodman said it would be fairer to have it across the board, if that was an option.

Alderman Parrott talked about when the license would begin, he wanted to know when the percentages would begin.Administrator Kavelman said the state has been delayed. Alderman Fleshman asked about the liquor licenses. Asking if this was issued in April. She said effective May 1.

Treasurer Conze said they get a license from us, and a license from the state, but they cannot serve liquor until they get it. He asked for ordinance violations, are we going to pull the license every time? Mr. Wheat said we're going to pull their license and put them out of businesses. Alderwoman Bauer said these are the places that have gaming. She said that is what we're talking about, not all liquor licenses would be subject to this.

Alderman Welch said this topic is not ready to move forward for any sort of decision. He said the liquor commission has more to discuss. Mr. Wheat asked do you know what you're doing to do then? He said what are we going to do, turn businesses away? Mayor Goodman said we don't want to pass up on an opportunity for growth. City Administrator Kavelman wanted to remind the council that there are two entities that want to move forward with growth.

Alderman Parrott asked what kind of license a Ruby Tuesday's would apply for. It would be a Class C, Restaurant license.

Mr. Bateman said he has always agreed with Steve, he was not a huge gaming fan, but asked the council, why are you limiting one section of a business community to one business sector? He suggested removing the limit with the idea of how many hoops they would have to jump through-it'd be survival of the fittest.

Alderwoman Bauer said enterprise is being limited because of this number. She said who are we to decide who get the opportunity to be in the game and who doesn't? She said it makes her hesitant to put a total number of cap on who can get liquor licenses, but for the gaming piece, there needs to be an added component.

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Alderman Parrott said they are addictive vices (alcohol and gambling). He listed fatalities in the county due to alcohol. He said when you're looking at addictive activities, by providing more opportunities, the city is looking at more potential problems down the road. Alderman Welch said it's just like the

gaming-when it comes to the drinking. He as a consumer decides where to spend his money. He said we can open up 50 bars in this town, but the market will decide. He said the risk is on the owner. As a council they have to make the opportunity and let the cards fall as they may.

REQUEST TO HIRE A FULL-TIME POLICE RECORDS CLERK:

Police Chief Paul Adams began by saying rather than hiring another police officer, he could be more productive by hiring more staff. He said this would take a lot of work load off of, "the guys." Alderwoman Browne wanted to confirm it is in the budget. The item will be placed on the agenda.

FAST TRACK DEMOLITION AT 107 N. MONROE:

Building and Safety Officer Wes Woodhall said this home was involved in a fire in Feb. 2018. There

was no insurance. He said it was in bad shape prior to the fire. He said the property owner was in a bad accident which delayed the process for a long time. He said the property is in terrible, terrible shape­ not just an eye sore, but very dangerous. He recommended hiring a company the city used

previously-to demolish this property. Alderman Welch wanted to know where he is at in his budget. He said probably through about half of it. He said the money is there, he'd hate to use it for this purpose, but the property is in terrible shape. He said it wasn't planned, but he likely has enough to cover one more property such as this site, and maybe a smaller one. The item will be placed on the agenda.

ANNOUNCEMENTS :

Mayor Goodman asked if anyone had any announcements.

City Administrator Kavelman said Comcast contacted the city, the company has announced two new channels will be coming, plus 12 more, as part of their digital economy package.

Alderman Fleshman wanted to make it known that the resignation of the City Attorney should have been discussed first and then released to the public and the press. He said this is a contract, similar to the contracts awarded by the department heads. Alderwoman Bauer said given the resignation, she wanted to know where the city was in the process of obtaining new

legal service for the city. City Administrator Kavelman weighed in on a Request for Proposal (RFP), she said she has contacted quite a few people and spoke with several of them today, she brought up the last agreement that the city had. She said we don't have much time, it would be nice to have one come in right away. Alderwoman Bauer wanted to know if the goal was to review candidates, or have an opportunity to discuss some contracts by Oct. 23, by the COW. Unless they call a special meeting, said City Administrator Kavelman. Alderwoman Bauer did not want to be without service. Mayor Goodman said he distributed the resignation notice from Woods and Bates. He said he did not see a reason not to have it become public knowledge. He said with 30 days, and the need for transparency, the city does not have much time to get someone in there, needing alternate services. He said that was him, he was the only one who

would be able to answer that. Alderman Fleshman said from a pool of perspective candidates out there, that the transparency problem is very true. He said in order to maintain Open Meetings Act it should have been presented here. Mayor Goodman said when he has had aldermen resign, he shared the information in the same way. Alderman Fleshman said he could have been wrong, he was wrong last week according to Mr. Bateman.Alderman Hoinaki said he'd like to see a short-term contract, 30 or 60 days, to avoid a gap in service. City

Administrator Kavelman said that was probably smart, but when she went over everything with potential candidates, and said she asked for their resumes by the end of this week, what their salary expectations would be, outlined some of the job description.She said she asked them for

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their response by the end of this week. Alderman Fleshman asked the council if they should ask Mr. Bates if he would be willing to help someone with the transition. Alderman Welch said the mayor's release of the email, makes it fully transparent what his intentions are. He said we need to get on the ball and get this resolved so we are not in a legal predicament where we don't

have council. Mayor Goodman said since the council was informed with that letter, he thought it beneficial for everyone else to know. Alderman Fleshman said he gave 30 days, but that did not mean he would not pickup contractual work as needed. He said it would be worth asking him.

Alderman Welch asked if the councilwould really want to extend an offer to someone who said they did not want to work for us.Alderwoman Bauer said if we are able, and if it is within our time constraints, she did not see it outside of the possibility to ask for a new contract to be drafted, for an as-needed basis, to utilize services so they can continue to do city business. She said it does not have to be Mr. Bates, there are other people who work in his firm. Alderwoman Browne, said just with the ordinances that we are working on.So the services do not stop. So we don't stop where we are at like the council has on the projects in the past. She wanted to know if the councilreceived the resumes by Friday, if they could discuss them by Monday's meeting. City Administrator Kavelman said they could go into Executive Session, there are two who are very interested right now. Alderman Parrott asked if the city would have to put this out for bid, or if they can just ask individuals. She said we're asking anybody, she said this is professional and artistic contract, so you don't have to go out for bids.

The owner of Apple Food Mart stood up in the back to talk about her business and what they are trying to do to bring businesses back to the downtown area. She said she and her family moved from Chicago. She said they are doing well, and trying their best to change the convenience store.

ADJOURNMENT:

There being no further discussion to come before the City Council of Lincoln, Alderwoman Browne motioned to adjourn, seconded by Alderman Dalpoas. Mayor Goodman adjourned the meeting at 9:06 p.m.

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